First Aid Cafe Forum http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/ This is an XML content feed of; First Aid Cafe Forum : Last 10 Posts Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:45:18 +0000 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:27:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.67 30 www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/RSS_topic_feed.asp First Aid Cafe Forum http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/ General Questions : Not sure... http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7766&PID=61521#61521 Author: Bigshock
Subject: Not sure...
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 11:27pm

Sad news indeed and my condolences to you, but to go back to the question of brain damage, all the Doctors can do is assume at that early stage and advise you quite rightly of the possible outcome.

What would normally happen (in a prolonged coma) is that two Doctors (often Consultants) would perform a brain stem test to look for any signs of life in the brain. If they found any life support would continue in the CCU.

In your friends case, nature sadly took its course.

Alan

Edited by Bigshock - Yesterday at 11:28pm]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:27:03 +0000 http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7766&PID=61521#61521 General Questions : Pedal Power (part two) http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7773&PID=61519#61519 Author: mph
Subject: Pedal Power (part two)
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 7:33pm

Quad response in reference to your suggestions regarding HQC 17/09

"2.5

SJA vehicles and private vehicles shall not carry equipment or other goods if they are not suitable

for the items being transported. Any load shall be positioned safely and where appropriate

anchored/tied in such a way that it does not cause problems to the driver or other passengers by

inadvertently moving around in the vehicle.

Ambulances are designed for a specific purpose, i.e. the transport of patients, and shall not be

used in any way which is not relevant or appropriate so they are always available to respond as

and when required. They shall not be used for the carriage of goods unless that is incidental to the

prime purpose, e.g. a patient’s luggage."

i think that's fairly clear over the fact that Ambulances must not be used as vans.

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Subject: Care Quality Commession Effects YOU!
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 5:08pm

See you there!

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Subject: Pedal Power (part two)
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 3:34pm

HQC17/09 outlines what can and cannot be carried/used in an Ambulance. May be of use with the subject of transporting Responder cycles.]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:34:38 +0000 http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7773&PID=61516#61516 Event Cover : How much http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7778&PID=61515#61515 Author: mph
Subject: How much
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 2:22pm

the fundamental problem with event cover is that

1. it is a vanity item for some operators - they will subsidise their event cover business from other income so they can drive around on blues , swan around with Chief ambulance officer epaulettes and call themselves an 'advanced emergency pratitioner ( oops missed the C out )'

2. there are people who are willing to pay to work and/or expect others to train them ....

while these muppeteers are allowed to trade the VASes and any private provider aiming to do it right will struggle to to earn enough to cover costs never mind make a profit

" the easiest way to make a small fortune from private ambulance work is to begin with a large fortune "

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Subject: Pedal Power (part two)
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 2:13pm

using an ambulance to transport CRU bikes, tents or other such equipment is outside the tax classification, and a business case which relies on using ambulances to transport them will not get NHQ approval or if it is approved at the county leevl may fall foul of the external audit process.

there is a cost / benefit question over fitting expensive flashing lights to cru cycles vs the use of horns and standard led headlights which iften have a flashing option

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Subject: BNF
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 12:09pm

Thanks]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:09:33 +0000 http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&PID=61512#61512 Event Cover : Care Quality Commession Effects YOU! http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7709&PID=61511#61511 Author: JonAcc
Subject: Care Quality Commession Effects YOU!
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 10:06am

I am attending the 23rd meeting]]> Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:06:41 +0000 http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7709&PID=61511#61511 Event Cover : How much http://www.FirstAidCafe.co.uk/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7778&PID=61510#61510 Author: Apache
Subject: How much
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 9:45am

Originally posted by medluke

Just out of intrest, How much does an average event medical cover company charge?

For example : A small local fete, max 100-200 people.
: A large event, including, fetes, concerts, parade, alcohol, late night. Max 3000 people.

What is the individual cost of a first aider?
Am i right in thinking that event company first aiders are only HSE First Aiders?

Average is a problem. But to give you an idea. There are three elements to consider.

The travel time and distance. I suggest charging 40p a mile there and back. Plus the hourly rate the travel takes.

The man hours involved. You cannot pay less than £5.80 per hour and in practice that attracts no-one.

Finally there has to be an element for consumables and I find 1p per head expected to attend. (4000 attendees = £40 charge to customer.

It might be possible to factor in a discount if the event is providing food for the first aiders.

As a one man band the hourly rate is your wage, but as an employer don't forget to factor in the other costs, NI, Employers liability etc.

Small fete 0930 - 1630 10 miles from base 200 people no food.

2 x first aiders @ £9.80 ph for 8 hours (30 mins travel ew) = £156.80

20 miles @ 40p per mile = £8

200 x 1p = £2

Total £166.8

As you can see the big expense is labour. Even at minimum wage it would be £92.8 and for an employer not a cent profit.

The HSE FAW is universal and recognised. IMO not ideal but it is the normal requirement.

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Subject: BNF
Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 9:19am

Originally posted by amandajlay

It's unlikely that the prices in the BNF reflect the prices paid by the NHS as they get discounts & deals on the drugs they buy which are tied to volume, clinical trials etc - all you'll get is the price from the manufacturer, not necessarily the NHS purchase price.

This is typical about this and many other forums. A request for assistance is met by ......?

Anyway, look here: http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/2804.htm

It might be that you need to register. The information given for Aspirin is: you have to wonder about PoM for Aspirin though, are they really PoM in the UK?

Aspirin (Non-proprietary)

Dispersible tablets , aspirin 75 mg, net price 28 = 86p; 300 mg, see section 4.7.1. Label: 13, 21, 32

Tablets , e/c, aspirin 75 mg, net price 28-tab pack = 98p; 56-tab pack = £1.11; 300 mg, see section 4.7.1. Label: 5, 25, 32

Accessed from http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/2804.htm 0915 09/Sep/2010

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