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#1 Posted : 19 September 2007 00:00:00(UTC)
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Big%20smileStudies "across the pond" have shown that by compresing the abdomen just below the sternum it has been possible to increase blood flow through the heart during CPR by 25% compared with current CPR technique. It also needs far less downward compression force and there is no risk of blood being pumped the wrong way through the heart which can sometimes happen when compressing the sternum.  


So far, this technique has only been used on pigs, and there is a lot of research still to be done but it's an interesting thought as to what we could be doing in the future.

 

The full articles are currently on the front page of emsvillage.com.
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Found this from: Purdue University.

New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest


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A biomedical engineer at Purdue University has developed a new method to perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation that promises to be more effective than standard CPR because it increases nourishing blood flow through the heart by 25 percent over the current method.

A new technique is desperately needed because conventional CPR has a success rate of 5 percent to 10 percent, depending on how fast rescuers are able to respond and how well the procedure is performed. For every one minute of delay, the resuscitation rate decreases by 10 percent.



"In other words, at 10 minutes, the resuscitation is absolutely ineffective," said Leslie Geddes, Showalter Distinguished Professor Emeritus in Purdue's Weldon School of Biomedical Engineering. "Any medical procedure that had that low a success rate would be abandoned right away. But the alternative is not very good, either: Don't do CPR and the person is going to die."


Geddes has developed the first new CPR alternative, called "only rhythmic abdominal compression," or OAC-CPR, which works by pushing on the abdomen instead of the chest.


"There are major problems with standard CPR," Geddes said. "One is the risk of breaking ribs if you push too hard, but if you don't push hard you won't save the person. Another problem is the risk of transferring infection with mouth-to-mouth breathing."


The new CPR method eliminates both risks, Geddes said.


Findings will be detailed in a research paper appearing this month in the American Journal of Emergency Medicine, published by Elsevier Inc. The paper was authored by Geddes and his Purdue colleagues Ann E. Rundell, assistant professor of biomedical engineering, biomedical engineering doctoral student Aaron Lottes, and basic medical sciences graduate students Andre Kemeny and Michael Otlewski.


In standard chest-compression CPR, which has been in practice since the 1960s, the rescuer pushes on the chest and blows into the subject's mouth twice for every 30 chest compressions. However, the risk of infection is so grave that many doctors and nurses often refuse to administer mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. In one 1993 study of 433 doctors and 152 nurses, 45 percent of doctors and 80 percent of nurses said they would refuse to administer mouth-to-mouth resuscitation on a stranger.


"This is the real world that nobody knows about, and it's a sobering thought," Geddes said.


OAC-CPR eliminates the need to perform mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.


The American Heart Association requires that rescuers administering CPR push with enough force to depress the chest 1 and a half to 2 inches at a rate of 100 times per minute.


"To depress the chest 1.5 to 2 inches takes 100 to 125 pounds of force," Geddes said. "So you have to push pretty hard and pretty fast, and two people are needed to perform it properly. One blows up the lungs and the other compresses the chest. And when the one who's compressing the chest gets tired, they change positions."


OAC-CPR requires only one rescuer.


Instead of two breaths for every 30 chest compressions, the new procedure provides a breath for every abdominal compression because pushing on the abdomen depresses the diaphragm toward the hea

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Found this on http://www.vet.purdue.edu/iaccpr/
 


For the more medically minded (and with a degree or two in maths) see:

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The three person CPR looks a nightmare and I can’t see it ever becoming a reality for the first aider. Trying to synchronise the chest and abdominal compressions within a ‘red mist’ moment would be next to impossible – what happens if you go out of sync and both press at once? Strecher

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This website has a good Q&A page which tries to answer some of these questions.  Well worth a read.
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#6 Posted : 01 November 2007 00:00:00(UTC)
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In a clinical situation with an empty stomach I can see it but in the street, after a curry I have serious doubts
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#7 Posted : 02 November 2007 00:00:00(UTC)
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Hi this is eresonse...dont know what happened, but I can no longer log on as eresponse?????? I have rejoined and had to give another knickname..any way here I am. I found this today, it makes interesting reading, I have heard of this before, and as we get a lot of input from the USA on resus, I expect it will be over here soon. They have had some great results with it.
 


Cardiocerebral resuscitation improves survival of patients with out-of-hospital cardiac arrest.



Mercy Health System, Janesville, Wis, USA.


PURPOSE: The guidelines for cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) have been in place for decades; but despite their international scope and periodic updates, there has been little improvement in survival rates in out-of-hospital cardiac arrest for patients who did not receive early defibrillation. The Emergency Medical Service directors in 2 rural Wisconsin counties initiated a new protocol for the pre-hospital management of adult cardiac arrest victims in an attempt to improve survival rates. The results observed after implementation of this protocol are presented and compared with those observed during a three-year period that preceded initiation of the project. METHODS: The protocol, based upon the principles of cardiocerebral resuscitation, was significantly different from the standard CPR protocol. A major objective was to minimize interruptions of chest compressions. Each defibrillation, including the first, was preceded by 200 uninterrupted chest compressions. Single shocks, rather than stacked shocks, were utilized. Post shock rhythm and pulse checks were eliminated, and chest compressions were resumed immediately after a shock was delivered. Initial airway management was limited to an oral pharyngeal device and supplemental oxygen. If the arrest was witnessed, assisted ventilations and intubation were delayed until either a return of spontaneous circulation or until three series of "compressions + analysis +/- shock" were completed. RESULTS: In the 3 years preceding the change in protocol, where standard CPR was utilized, there were 92 witnessed out-of-hospital adult cardiac arrests with an initially shockable rhythm. Eighteen patients survived, and 14 of 92 (15%) were neurologically intact. After implementing the new protocol in early 2004, there were 33 witnessed out-of-hospital adult cardiac arrests with an initially shockable rhythm. Nineteen survived, and 16 of 33 (48%) were neurologically normal. Differences in both total and neurologically normal survival are significant (chi-squared = 0.001). CONCLUSION: Instituting the new cardiocerebral resuscitation protocol for managing prehospital cardiac arrest improved survival of adult patients with witnessed cardiac arrest and an initially shockable rhythm.


PMID: 16564776 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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#8 Posted : 24 November 2007 00:00:00(UTC)
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This  looks interesting but the 'stomach full' comment seems to be the key to it working ... this sort of posting is what I feel First Aid Cafe is all about in improving both knowledge and training.  Thanks.
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#9 Posted : 23 February 2008 00:00:00(UTC)
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Could somebody explain the silvester method and holger-nielson method and how they worked in to past?
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#10 Posted : 23 February 2008 00:00:00(UTC)
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They didn't work thats they the are no longer used
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#11 Posted : 26 February 2008 00:00:00(UTC)
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I know that, I was just interested, that's all.dm
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would abdominal compression be better for chest trauma and would it increase the air flow in and out of the lungs during compressions
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