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#1 Posted : 19 May 2003 00:00:00(UTC)
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Could I suggest (before anyone else does ;)) changing some of the entries in the event provides boxes:
eg change "Paramedic" to "SR Paramedic" (or add SR Paramedic as another option)
First Aider - either to First Aider (min FAW) or allow both
As to ambulance technician - given the lively debate (and accepting it isn't yet a protected title) allowing AT (IHCD) and AT (other).

Under ambulances, allow Ambulance (Road) and Ambulance (4WD)

An initial offering at least - I'm sure someone will disagree, or suggest other variations


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#2 Posted : 20 May 2003 00:00:00(UTC)
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I think it's quite important that ambulances should be split into "4WD" and "Road" under the general heading "Front-Line Ambulance" or similar as some ambulances turning up at events as "ambulances" are most definitely not "front line". As far as personnel is concerned I think you just need "First Aider" , "Doctor", Nurse" and "SR Paramedic" (If you're not one of these other categories, you're a first aider).
I'll now sit back and wait for the flack!!

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Thanks for that. As you know my knowledge is somewhat limited on this front.
Any other changes needed before I mod the software?


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#4 Posted : 21 May 2003 00:00:00(UTC)
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I suggested SR Paramedics - so you have those entitled to practise - and whilst most SRP are in the NHS, there are a number of non-nhs paramedics who were accepted for registration (admittidly, no a lot)
I cna't agree with the statement that if you're not a doctor nurse or paramedica then you are afirst aider - ambulance technician is a respectible title.
I only distinguised between FA (FAW) and FA - I know from the RC side although all their FA have a first aid ticket, not all have FAW. But then FAw doen't really mention children - a disadvantage at some events. Other point can be at some events, although the organiser is responsible to provide appropriate FAW coverage for staff, they may wiah to subcontact this as part of the cover, in which case you must provide at least a number of FAW staff.

And as for how far do you extend FA skills - eg AED/oxygen - you could end up with a big list - surely this should come out duting the risk analysis as to whether a "plain" first aider is appropraite, or additional skills (and equipment) such as AED/o2 or more qualified staff should be supplied
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Care1- You guessed it - The flack!
To ask admin to simply put first aider as an option is unrealistic, because then he would be asked to put first aider with oxygen, first aider with AED, first aider with spinal immobilisation. See where I am going with this one. I have been practising and teaching my skills for over 20 years now. In that time I have alway held an FAW, I have ALS through our local NHS, PLS through the same and a MIMMS qualification. I can use both manual and automatic defib. Which box would you suggest I use. The state registration for paramedics is somewhat biased towards NHS staff. i.e. Private sector can't register. I like to market the skills of my business and have nurses, doctors and SR Paramedics on my books. Ian Parry

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If the event organiser required staff/contractors/performers to be covered would that not come under the first aid regs? As it is a workplace. Most SJA are FAW when I was in it although I think RX tend to keep to standard (which I am not faulting, one of my first adult F/A certs.)I cannot comment on SAA as only ever visited Scotland on holiday.
A FAW can do add ons such as a paeds course,O2/Entonox and AED outside the VAS and dep.on where they work have as much exp.as some vas personel. I am sure we have all met the members who go the courses but never have been on a large duty so does it not go on the individual rather than the certificate.
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A First Aider is a First Aider, limiting event cover to FAW first aiders who are restricted in what they may be trained in and relative skill levels would be a poor choice. Those skills taught to and practiced by the VAS Standard certificate holders is a better choice simply from the range of skills and experience available.

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As a State Registered Paramedic I would like to add my backing for the need to specify "SR Paramedic" rather than just "paramedic" and "IHCD Technician" rather than "technician". I have been to numerous events to find someone in an emergency ambulance wearing green suites with "technician" on, yet the crew only hold first aid at work qualifications. It would be nice to see the site differentiate between highly qualified experienced crews and the "cowboys". Thanks.

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Wreckferret:
For a small fee, Event Cover and Training Providers can be listed under any three counties. Customers carrying out searches can select multiple counties in which to search. One thing to note however, it is only ‘logged on’ customers that can see the ‘free’ listings of providers. As about 75% of visitors do not login/join, providers who have not paid for advertising are severely disadvantaged. It currently costs less than £10 for advertising – hardly a great sum. Although this is about to increase (as soon as I get time).


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The attitude that non NHS staff are cowboys HAS TO GO! I have seen and heard of some absolutely abismal treatment doled out by the NHS ambulance crews.

As for if your not a Paramedic your a First Aider how many first aiders do you know with UKRC ALS tickets and PHTLS?

As for the directory i'd like to see a wider choice of sales area. Some counties are very small. regions such as 'The south west' or even a tick box system for regions would be better.

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