Personally i know nothing of this.

Perhaps this is one for HSE to be questioned upon, as this is going to cause a shock for too many training organisations who offer "train the trainer" style course4s which mean absolutely nothing!

It's certainly the way SJA are going, but don't know whether that is just their 'good practice' or not, and that is not just for FA trainers, it's for all SJA trainers including youth.

This situation concerning if you are required to hold a PTLLS course etc is an old one and one which many providers offering the course are misleading people. The requirements for PTLLS fall under the Further Education Act 2007.

This Act placed a legal requirement on all Learning and Skills Council (LSC) funded courses that those teaching funded courses must have a recognised teaching qualification or be working towards on. However the same Act also said that those who obtained certain listed qualification between 2001 & 2007 were exempt the requirement to under go a PTLLS course (many providers of PTLLS fail to highlight this and say all, could this be something to do with money?). The Act also gave a general exemption to those who obtained teaching and training qualifications before 2001 (like me) what some would call grandfather rights. All this is in the Act and guidance plus it is covered on the Institute for Learning (IFL) website. Why do many of the providers say experienced trainers need PTLLS is beyond me and one must ask is money the motive?



I feel the use of the acronym “PTLLS” is leading to confusion and let’s look at what PTLLS stands for as this gives people a clue. Preparing to Teach in the Lifelong Learning Sector. I think the Preparing to teach gives the game away. Can anyone explain why an experienced trainer with many years experience needs to do a course called Preparing to Teach in the Lifelong Learning Sector and why are organisations saying to experienced trainers to be able to teach you need to do a PTLLS course. As my mum would say “a fool and his money is soon parted.” Sorry to all the fools but did you need to spend the money on a course you didn’t need. Don’t forget if you have been misled you can always report this to trading standards and seek the return of your money etc.



The other big sting in the tale this only applies to LSC funded courses and those that teach a specialist subject, such as Health and Safety, accounts, (and these are listed on IFL website) are exempt from the requirements imposed by th

I know there have been a reasonable variety of feedback on-site about the relevance/suitability for this kind of course but have not observed of a compulsory need.



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