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"Bubbles" Overdose
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#1 Posted : 06 February 2010 00:00:00(UTC)
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ladies and gents, was asked by my colleague, a fellow door supervisor, what the treatment for a mephedrone (street name: 'bubbles', '4-MMC', ‘Meow’, ‘Meow-Meow’, ‘M-Cat’, commonly known as: plant food) overdose is?
 

It has been doing the rounds of the nightclub scene and being branded as legal and harmless. (YEAH RIGHT!)

 

Confiscated a few on searches already.

 

Have had a serious few incidents in the area recenly due to users being high on the substance. Probably the most serious one where a 12yo schoolboy was chased by a man with a knife!

 

Back to the point how would we deal with it (apart from a normal overdose case) as very little is known about it?

 

As its only amatter of time.....

 

Thanks.

 

Ewan
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#2 Posted : 06 February 2010 00:00:00(UTC)
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Friend of mine is a paramedic, he had 2 patients last weekend who'd taken this stuff - not sure what he did with them, but both went to A/E.


Side-effects include convulsions, breathing problems, nose bleeds, depression, psychosis - and, in some cases, even death.

But it's still legal and cheap!!Mrs T2010-02-06 19:15:29
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http://www.dontstayin.com/article-11068

"Talk to Frank" is the UK DRugs help line for young people, this gives quite a good article on the stuff.
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#4 Posted : 08 February 2010 00:00:00(UTC)
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The Daily Mail did a good article on it. Link below
 

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#5 Posted : 08 February 2010 00:00:00(UTC)
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Some of the paras on another forum were suggesting using diazepam to sedate pt, control seizures and BP.

In terms of First aid level, the advice is to get the casualty into fresh air, summon help and monitor closely.

Be careful though, mephadrone has been linked to causing psychosis, which may stop you at the D or DRABC!

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#6 Posted : 24 February 2010 00:00:00(UTC)
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first aid point of view:ABCD fresh air, call ambulance
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#7 Posted : 24 April 2010 00:00:00(UTC)
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Mrsimman: I wouldn't go by anything the Daily Mail says on matters medical. Remember that fear sells papers! They have a vested interest in creating panic in people and their medical articles are written by journalists with no medical training.
 

Unfortunately the government seems to have passed up a good oppurtunity here. They had a chance to take a recreational drug that people used, require its ingredients and strength to be listed and regulated, require proper health warnings and directions to be put on the packaging and regulate its sale. Instead they made it illegal meaning that all these people will go back to taking pills with who knows what in them that could be any strength, are on sale to anyone, have no health warnings and probably aren't particularly clean either. Its a ban born out of media hype and people's fear and unfortunately it doesn't serve to protect society :(
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#8 Posted : 29 April 2012 23:07:16(UTC)
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I sometimes think if you take drugs and die then it’s your own fault, however they don’t call them pushers for nothing, some people are easily lead or bullied into taking drugs. I grew up in a poor area and pushers tried every trick in the book to get you to buy drugs.


This money then goes into other criminal activity, guns, prostitution and people trafficking etc. So I don’t understand why the government can’t find some kind of legal high that can be sold at a chemist putting revenue back into society, not criminality.


It’s a tuff call no government wants to be seen supporting drug use, however the criminals do !


I work on a front line NHS ambulance and feel very vulnerable when dealing with the effects of drugs, the people we tend to see have taken different types along with a bottle or two of the hard stuff,


They are often less than happy to see us and will not want any help until they collapse.


Look after yourself get the police involved


Call the ambo


If it’s safe –ABC recovery position ( keep your shoes out the way in case they vomit)  


IF IT’S NOT SAFE – STAND OFF  


    

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