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#1 Posted : 08 June 2012 11:47:07(UTC)
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Hi



I would really welcome your comments.  Our Scout Group have fundrasied for a defibrillator for our village.  I have spoken already to a trainer/first responder, paramedic, and a supplier to get advise of which AED to buy and why. As we have fundrasied for this devise already so cost is not something I am primarily concerned with, its more about what devise is best for lay people to use in an emergency. It would be stored outside in a cabinet



I would be grateful if you could advise me which you think is more appropriate and why.



Thanking you in advance



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#2 Posted : 08 June 2012 15:50:20(UTC)
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Bexs

This is very dependent upon personal preferences.  Having said that a good all round performer I have found is the Cardiac Science G3, a set of Pediatric pads is available for those under 8 if required.  I recently got a good deal on one for a local company by telephoning the UK sales man direct rather than going through a distributor.  

One area of concern would be your statement of it being stored outside.  Not to much of a problem in the summer but as with most equipment with batteries I have yet to come across one that will guarantee operating in temperatures below 0 degrees C.  I have known people who have had warning indications when they have stored them in cars during winter evenings.  This normally quickly solves its self when it warms up.  Please consider where you store this.

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#3 Posted : 08 June 2012 16:51:25(UTC)
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Hi, most of them are very similar in performance, but as a matter of reliability and support I have been dealing with a company called Wel Medical from Aldershot. If they still have the same deal going, when you buy the Defib, they will also supply you with the Trainer version as part of the deal. They will also let you have a training defib on loan before you buy the actual defib if you would prefer that. It is always good too be able to practice with exactly the same defib that you will be using. I also have the G3 and its a very reliable machine to. There are many reliable machines around but the prices vary considerably, personaly I would reccomend the IPAD (Intelligent Public Access Defibrillator) that Wel Medical supply, it is the same size/weight etc as most defibs, and is a 123 operation.

http://www.ipad-aed.com/

Hope this helps.

p.s. if you do contact them, mention me ...Barry from Foxes Academy, you may get a better price;-)
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#4 Posted : 08 June 2012 21:38:06(UTC)
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Have a look at communityheartbeat.org.uk


We have helped them in the past.  If I recall we also do their insurance. Ask for Martin who also runs / involved with Belvoir First Aid. He is very experienced in these matters. You also need information not just on a suitable defib but also on a suitable cabinet. I’m sure he will be able to assist.




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#5 Posted : 10 June 2012 00:12:39(UTC)
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what is the preferred AED of the Ambulance service trust which would be supporting this provision ?

makes a lot of sense to use the same as other CFR schemes in the service area as the trust will hold spares and consumables and have a service contract .

one issue with outdoor stored machines is that they don't like the cold ...

the G3 especially does not like the cold.
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#6 Posted : 11 June 2012 12:49:39(UTC)
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Thanks for your responses. They have been very helpful.  I have certainly a lot to think about. 



Can I please ask what your thoughts are on defibs that give you feedback as you are doing CPR i.e push harder, quicker etc.  I know these are the newer types of defibrillators and have therefore enabled responders to give more effective CPR ( I have heard this, but I havent researched this myself). My thought is what happens if the responder cant go faster or harder because they have an exsisting medical condition - Im talking about lay people here and not professional responders.  How would they feel, or is this not an issue because they have not used a defib before? 



any advice is really welcome to narrow down the choices of defibrillators and their functions.



Thanks Again





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#7 Posted : 04 September 2012 11:39:38(UTC)
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Well we have done our homwork and today the defibrillator in our village goes live.  We have puchased a new style heated cabinet that will be remotely accessed by the call center using mobile phone technology.  1st Severn Beach Scouts are the first to have this cabinet go live.  This has been a very exciting project and we are fundraising for another defib and cabinet to go in  our villages. 



http://www.thisisbristol...812163-detail/story.html



More info on this cabinet contact Clive Setter at AED Locator



http://www.aedlocator.org/
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#8 Posted : 09 January 2013 10:50:08(UTC)
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Defibrillators that are most popularly known as automated external defibrillators (AEDs, are widely used device in public places especially in those areas where there is a high incidence of cardiac arrest. Home defibrillators should be purchased by the people who live far from the hospitals or emergency rooms. These devices should especially be available in villages and those places where there is large crowd such as airports. There are two types of defibrillators that are most common and they are internal and external.  It depends on your requirement which one you should buy.  External one’s are those bought from online orders though there are some that are internal or implanted and these internal one’s are used by those who have chronic heart disease. Automated external defibrillators are widely used at airports, schools and health clubs.

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