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Has anyone been on a mental first aid course?
Should first aid trainers / employers be aware of mental first aid?
Should we have a speaker on this at our next conference?
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I think I would have chosen different words to describe psychiatric emergencies.
Whilst it may be a good idea, the problem is that "one size doesn't fit all" Having had to deal with a few psychiatric emergencies, I can say they all required very different approaches.
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Hi Dave,
I've done the Mind 'Mental Health First Aid', a 2 day course - it's excellent. There are some non Mind MHFA trainers who have the course accredited by Mind, but not many. If you want to do the course, then the Mind website is the best place to start (Mind Cymru if in Wales!!)
I think it would definitely be worth looking into for conference. It is a well recognised course. As a follow on you can also do something called ASIST (Applied Suicide Intervention Training) & there's even Youth MHFA. ASIST is run by Mind for many Police & Fire services in the UK, & MHFA is becoming more popular with employees (local authorities for example).
I have a good contact within Mind, so if you want to speak to someone, PM me & will introduce you!!
Hope that helps
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Hi thanks Amanda for your information it is very helpful, I work for the local NHS Ambulance and to be truthful the mental health training is not the best, I know a lot of crews that would like to do more training in this area to have a better understanding of patients needs. I will look into this on the MIND website, I also do some BHF training and would like to look into becoming a MIND instructor if I can get my head around the course. I have a son with Autism and enjoy giving my mental health patients that extra little bit of care. Thanks my pc will not let me send a PM?? but thank you for this good info, John
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Hi John,
You're welcome.
I do know that both MIND (England) & MIND Cymru deliver MHFA & ASIST to police forces & fire services throughout the UK, so it may well be worth getting in touch with the training dept at your trust to ask them to explore the possiblity of having these courses provided by them (especially the ASIST course if you are frontline personnel).
I know there are no current plans to train any more trainers in Wales at the moment, but not sure what the situation is in England.
Best of luck.
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think this issue should have more hearing, and a great topic for conference, i would certainly support this ( given it`s my area of interest)
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I have not yet undergo this mental / mind First Aid training but this seems interesting. Anyone have some book on this? EmikoFierros025 says Hi!
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Thanks Amanda I will look into this via the trusts training department but with cut backs etc I fear that I know the reply already. All crews have a good understanding of capacity to consent, and a basic understanding of the mental health act, but my feeling is that we need just that little bit extra understanding.
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It's more about supporting people in crisis than about MCA to be honest, but very interesting as many people shy away from supporting people in these situations, mainly I feel due to fear.
ASIST (Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training) is the one that the emergency services seem to do as they will often be the FPOS in this type of situation, & it's about how to help an individual in these situations.
As for a book, as far as I know there isn't one you can buy, but if you do the course you are given a handbook to go with it.
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