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MIST vs SAMPLE vs some others in the great handover debate!
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Hello everyone,
I am interested in gauging opinion on the best Handover techniques people have come across. Personally, I think MIST is great for trauma, and a SAMPLE is good for medical emergencies but are there any better ones out there?
For those not in the know:
Mechanism for injury
Injuries found & suspected
Signs
Treatment given
Signs & Symptoms
Allergies
Medications
Past pertinent history
Last oral intake, liquid & solid
Events leading to the incident
I feel SBAR a little to loose and open to interpretation but it would be nice to gauge opinion.
Cheers!
John
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 Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Users, Subscribers Joined: 27/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 159 Points: 480
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SAMPLER and PQRSTA are your patient assessment criteria. MIST is your immediate handover information, followed up by history not covered. ie MIST
This is John
M Front seat unrestrained passenger in a car that hit a tree at 40 MPH. Intrusion into the passenger compartment
I Injuries top to toe - Laceration above R eyebrow. # L Clavicle, R sided Tension Pneumotorax, Eviscerated Testicle, #ankle
S Signs and Symptoms. Reduced conciousness, difficulty in breathing, pain 9/10. Pale, Tachycardic, Tachypnoe
T Treatment. Immobilised, O2, Pain relief O2, Decmpressed chest.
Hand over
Speak to hand over nurse
Signs and Symptoms - as reported
Allergies - Penicillin, Halothane anaesthesia gas
Medications - Viagra, Statins, Atenolol
PMH - Hypertention, high cholsterol, impotence
Last Meal - KFC
Events leading up to - trashed car into tree
Risk factors - fat, old, smokes, drinks, has alcohol in his blood.
Your patient, can I assist or may I go
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 Rank: Newbie Groups: Registered, Registered Users, Subscribers Joined: 06/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 2 Points: 6 Location: N/A
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John sounds like he is having a bad day! Thanks for your input. Does anybody else want to weigh in on this?
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 Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Users, Subscribers Joined: 27/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,073 Points: 3,222 Location: United Kingdom
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I have found different hospitals/ ambulance services all seem to want different things from a handover.
I am not even sure if it is the actual NHS trust that seem to veary or just the staff though.
I can understand if I just happen to come across an accident and the crew don't know me from Adam, but that shouldn't apply when working, but sadly it does sometimes.
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 Rank: Newbie Groups: Registered, Registered Users, Subscribers Joined: 17/02/2012(UTC) Posts: 1 Points: 3 Location: Malta
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Originally Posted by: speckles  I have found different hospitals/ ambulance services all seem to want different things from a handover.
I am not even sure if it is the actual NHS trust that seem to veary or just the staff though.
I can understand if I just happen to come across an accident and the crew don't know me from Adam, but that shouldn't apply when working, but sadly it does sometimes. I am looking up literature on this at the moment, I would like to do my Msc. dissertation on the topic. Would really appreciate it if you could supply me with the literature you mention. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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I use both SAMPLE & MIST when teaching first aid. Sadly, on many occasions when I have been in a position to be giving first aid in the street and have been trying to hand over to an ambulance crew I have found them unwilling to listen and treating me like all the other "wilderbeasts" as they call members of the public, so neither has mattered! Only once have I been complimented on my handover.
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Originally Posted by: Wiccan  I use both SAMPLE & MIST when teaching first aid. Sadly, on many occasions when I have been in a position to be giving first aid in the street and have been trying to hand over to an ambulance crew I have found them unwilling to listen and treating me like all the other "wilderbeasts" as they call members of the public, so neither has mattered! Only once have I been complimented on my handover. Hmmm... never heard of that term and I have worked for a couple of ambulance services... A decent crew will always listen to a handover, but then again I have had crews take patients from me and completely fail to listen to my handover, so go figure! (Full time paramedic RRV driver...) Most universities teach the SAMPLE for the history and the PQRST for pain as it is an easy to remember system.
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 Rank: Member Groups: Registered Users, Subscribers Joined: 27/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 16 Points: 48
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May be "wilderbeast" is just a North West Ambulance thing then. I have just done a 5 day Advanced First Aid course with them and the paramedic instructor referred to members of the public as Wilderbeasts for the whole 5 days. May be it is just him! Sorry if I generalised too much Deek. 
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